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We have some experience with iLab interlocks, both hardware and software.

iLab is extremely useful and saves core staff a huge amount of time.  But we don't manage iLab.  This is done by expert staff who manage iLab for all the cores.  Given the complexity of interfacing iLab with the financial systems and the IT for computers, core staff would not be able to do this and also serve as microscopists.

The hardware interlock does require lockdown of the power cable as there really are users who will change the wiring to avoid the interlock.

The software interlock requires opening a browser window... Instructions here:  http://microscopynotes.com/ilabnyu/kiosk_instructions.pdf
It is effective for computers used to collect data with additional hardware, for instance a Zeiss or Nikon microscope, where Zen or Elements may be blocked, where there is one account.  Users now expect the extra step of the kiosk.

For use of the analysis computers,  each user logs in to their own account and they are intolerant of and additional login to the kiosk to use software.  (Maybe intolerant isn't the correct word because we cannot measure whether business has been lost; expressing extreme inconvenient is accurate.)  Also, it cannot be used for all software.  For instance, ImageJ and Fiji cannot be locked down by iLab.  I haven't checked with etomo or python shells.  Regardless, a major drawback of iLab is its inability to gather auditing info from KID logins.  IT set up a script to record logins/logouts and we turned off iLab interlock on these computers and a person monthly tallies the Windows logs and enters them into iLab.

We found that pads attached to the wall don't work.  I find iLab difficult to use on a pad, almost impossible on my phone.  With the fixed pads, the angle of approach is too high for some and too low for others.  Also, our equipment is not centralized and some of the rooms are really tight.

We wanted to institute a policy whereby the billing begins at the beginning of the appointment and ends at actual time of logging out.  This does not happen.  iLab Kiosk stops billing and says there is a "walkout" when users stay longer than their scheduled time.  For instance, if someone signs up from 2:00 to 4:00 and continues working until 5:00, the kiosk signs them out at 4:15 and says there is a walkout.   This means 45 minutes are not recorded as used, which is a problem for usages statistics, and also lost revenue.

Please reach out if want to discuss more.

Cheers-


Michael Cammer, Sr Research Scientist, DART Microscopy Laboratory
NYU Langone Health, 540 First Avenue, SK2 Microscopy Suite, New York, NY  10016
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From: Confocal Microscopy List <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Chad Johnson <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 7:03:58 PM
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Subject: Re: iLab Hardware Interlock Module for the Core



Hi Erika

We are just about to begin rolling out both iLab hardware and software
interlocks throughout Monash University in Melbourne, Australia, including
the microscopy facilities. We are using the hardware interlock module to
control a network power adapter. As we would not risk interrupting the
power supply to a computer, microscope or laser, we are opting for
something inert, which is the computer monitors. When the user has a valid
booking and activates their session via the iLab kiosk (we will have a
small computer in the foyer for this but it can be done via their desktop
computer or phone if necessary) the power to the monitors is restored and
they can carry out their work. This way there is really no possibility that
the interlock can interfere with the operation of the system, as the
monitor only impacts the ability to see the display. When their session is
over they finish their booking via the Kiosk and the monitors turn off,
ready for the next user. We are going to set a "walkout" time which stops
their booking after 30 minutes if they haven't done it themselves or
forgot. This extra time also gives them a chance to finish and save their
work if the next user has not arrived and they have gone over their
allotted time and adjusts the calendar accordingly.

We are also going to also use software interlocks which will allow a user
to access the computer but the software itself is locked down and will only
start if there is a valid booking, as with the hardware interlock. You
install a client on each computer and indicate which programs you want it
to control. We have not noticed any issues in regards to the operation of
the software. The interlock only prevents the execution but once it is
unlocked iLab will only log the time it has been used and it is up to the
user to close the program to prevent extra charges. Both the hardware and
software interlocks interact with a bridge, which is a modified raspberry
pi that acts as a link between the iLab software and the interlocks.

Please feel free to contact me directly if you have any question regarding
the setup and use of these.

Chad Johnson


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> *On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 4:37 AM Erika Wee <[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]@cshl.edu>>>
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posting. ***** Hello everyone, I am the new microscopy facility manager at
the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, and we have iLab campus wide for all the
core management, we would like to know if anyone have implemented the iLAB
Hardware Interlock Module for their core facility. Does it interfere with
the imaging acquisition software like Zen or Volocity etc? Any feedback
would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks. Best, Erika --------- Dr. Erika
(Tse-Luen) Wee Manager, Microscopy Shared Resource Facility Cold Spring
Harbor Laboratory One Bungtown Road Cold Spring Harbor, New York 11724
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