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John,

        This list always has been open to the commercial
posters, and what you fear has not happened in the many
years it has been running.  Personally I doubt if I
would have heard about this interesting laser anywhere
near as soon without that posting.  What's more, many of
the 'commercial' posters here have often spent much time
explaining technical issues of general interest with no
sales angle at all.  They are valued members of this
community, just as they are in many microscopy societies,
user groups and the like all over the world.

       Besides which, Bob Summers is the list-owner, and
in the end he sets the rules!

                                             Guy




> Search the CONFOCAL archive at
> http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal
>
> I really shudder to think of the amount of advertising one would have to
> wade through to get to the real discussions of confocal microscopy that
> a list like this is designed for.  Do you really want to throw the door
> open wide to all corporate interests?  My guess is that this would
> result in a positive feedback / arms race type of situation in which all
> companies would feel that they _had_ to advertise on the list.  Better
> to start another list called 'Confocal spam' or something to that effect
> if you want to hear about all of the latest products.  If you think that
> there hasn't been too much advertising on the list so far, this is
> because it has been discouraged.  There are several glossy trade
> magazines that are well supported by advertisers, there are trade shows,
> and there is the world wide web for reading about new products.  Let us
> try to keep the list a relatively commercial-free zone.  John.
>
> Edward Monosov, Ph.D. wrote:
>
>> Search the CONFOCAL archive at
>> http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal
>>
>> Besides Bob's great clarification of this micro-ethical dilemma, I
>> think, advertisings, akin to Steve's, are the fastest highway for the
>> discovery  information about new products.
>> Maybe, gurus running this noble site will legalize this method of
>> introduction for new technology, one time and forever.
>>
>> Thank  you
>>
>>
>> Robert Summers wrote:
>>
>>>Search the CONFOCAL archive at
>>>http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal
>>>
>>>Dear Colleagues,
>>>
>>>As one of the three founders of the Confocal Listserv discussion group
>>> in
>>>1988, we intended to allow and encourage commercial interests to help us
>>>with common problems by participating fully in our list.  Such
>>>communications were deemed OK as long as the person or entity was
>>> defined
>>>as a commercial interest either in the heading or signature of the
>>>message. In fact, we also ENCOURAGED manufacturers to alert us to a new
>>>product using the list, so long as the message was brief, factual and
>>> not
>>>critical of other products. The issue has been discussed REPEATEDLY by
>>>newcomers to the list and the decision has always been to allow
>>> commercial
>>>interests to participate but to not allow BLATANT ADVERTISEMENT of
>>>products. We have had no problem with this.
>>>
>>>Best Regards!
>>>
>>>Robert G. "Bob" Summers, Ph.D.
>>>Professor Emeritus, SUNY Buffalo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Edward Monosov, Ph.D.
>>Director , Cell Imaging & Histology
>>The Burnham Institute
>>10901 N. Torrey Pines Rd,
>>La Jolla, CA 92037
>>Ph:    (858)646-3100 ext. 3206
>>Fax: (858)646-3196
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>>
>>
>
> --
>
> *********************************
> C. John Runions, Ph.D.
> School of Biological and Molecular Sciences
> Oxford Brookes University
> Oxford, UK
> OX3 0BP
>
> email: [log in to unmask]
> phone: +44 (0) 1865 483 964
>


-- 
Associate Professor Guy Cox
Electron Microscope Unit,
University of Sydney,
NSW 2006, Australia

Phone:+61 2 9351 3176    Fax:+61 2 9351 7682
http://www.guycox.net

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