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All,
There is an elephant in the room here... Who has the best incentive and the best means to assure that your article remains accessible for decades in the future? A company that is making money by selling access or a nonprofit that is providing free access?
Really I don't know the answer to this question - I just throw it out there.
Carol Heckman
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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:51 PM
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Subject: Re: Latest Paper on OME's OMERO ... so publish in an open access no charge journal
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Jason,
While I do appreciate the push for open access and actively work towards
that goal, I equally appreciate the need for survival in the very
challenging
field that science is today (explore research funding statistics). If you
have an opportunity to
publish your work in a journal which is cited ten to twenty fold more than
another (see links below) I would take the position of
optimal dissemination of information and publish in Nature Methods as you
did. There are many mechanisms to work towards a future of open access and
certainly the days of limited/paid access to scientific knowledge are
fleeting. I would not call you nobel if you were to publish in a lower
impact journal out of principle and subsequently get less recognition and
subsequent to that, not get your coming grant funded.
http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=16077&tip=sid&clean=0
http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=144840&tip=sid&clean=0
Sincerely,
-Ryan Schreiner
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:37 PM, George McNamara
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> Hi Jason,
>
> so publish in an open access no charge journal. For example,
>
> http://jbt.abrf.org/
>
> About the Journal of Biomolecular Techniques
>
> /The official journal of the Association of Biomolecular Resource
> Facilities/
>
> /The Journal of Biomolecular Techniques /is a peer-reviewed publication
> issued five times a year by the Association of Biomolecular Resource
> Facilities <http://www.abrf.org/>. The Journal was established to promote
> the central role biotechnology plays in contemporary research activities,
> to disseminate information among biomolecular resource facilities, and to
> communicate the biotechnology research conducted by the Association's
> Research Groups and members, as well as other investigators
>
> George
> p.s. the limited download thing (for the limited time until the public
> access rider kicks in) the Nature journals have is completely silly.
> p.p.s. full disclosure: since sometime last year I have been an ABRF
> member. I am also a speaker (Tue PM) at this year's meeting that starts
> this Sat night in Orlando
> http://conf.abrf.org/index.**cfm/page/ConfProg.htm<http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm/page/ConfProg.htm>
>
>
> On 3/11/2012 6:17 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
>
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>> Hi George-
>>
>> First, thanks for the pun. Never thought of that one. ;-)!
>>
>> More seriously-- agreed, this is a bit tricky. Nature journals adhere to
>> the regulations on open access as specified by the NIH, Wellcome Trust and
>> others:
>>
>> http://www.nature.com/authors/**author_resources/deposition.**html<http://www.nature.com/authors/author_resources/deposition.html>
>>
>> The paper will be deposited in UKPubMed Central after 6 months.
>>
>> Is that good enough? Many people will think not. I'm stating the facts,
>> not judging them.
>>
>> In fact, I've been looking into ways we could distribute a PDF of the
>> paper. It used to be (a long time ago) that Nature journals allowed you
>> to
>> post a PDF of a published paper on your own web site. They still allow
>> this, but the PDF is limited to a certain number of downloads, or a time
>> interval:
>>
>> http://www.nature.com/**reprints/author-reprints.html<http://www.nature.com/reprints/author-reprints.html>
>>
>> We're looking into buying such a PDF, and if we can afford it, we'll
>> update
>> the list.
>>
>> Thanks for pointing this out-- you are absolutely correct.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM, George McNamara<geomcnamara@**
>> earthlink.net <[log in to unmask]>
>>
>>
>>> wrote:
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>>> Hi Jason,
>>>
>>> Oxymoronic (OMEronic) to publish an article on open source software in a
>>> closed access journal.
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>> On 2/29/2012 5:51 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
>>>
>>>
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>>>> Dear All-
>>>>
>>>> FYI, the latest paper on OMERO is just out at Nature Methods:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/****journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.****html<http://www.nature.com/nmeth/**journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.**html>
>>>> <http://www.nature.com/**nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.**1896.html<http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v9/n3/abs/nmeth.1896.html>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts, comments, critiqus, etc. most welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
> George McNamara, Ph.D.
> Image Core Manager
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> Ready for imaging in 2012? Check out:
>
>
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> February 26-29, 2012, Miami, FL
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>
> Association of Biomolecular Resource Facilities (ABRF)
> International Symposium
> March 17-20, 2012, Orlando, FL
> http://conf.abrf.org/index.cfm
>
> Biomedical Optics 2012 (OSA BIOMED) - Optical Society of America
> April 29-May 2, 2012, Miami, FL
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>
>
>
> "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away." - Douglas Macarthur.
> "Old antibodies die, please throw them away." - GM.
>
> "Well of course you can't understand your data, you have too many
> controls" - Anna M. Wu, quoted in Andreas Markus Loening, Ph.D.
> dissertation, UCLA, 2006.
> "If you do all the controls, you'll never publish." - GM.
> "If you don't do the controls, you shouldn't publish." ... alternative:
> "If you don't do the controls, don't waste everyone's time in lab meeting."
> - GM.
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