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Since MS Vista I am looking for alternatives. I have lots of old equipment working with Win XP only, but not with newer MS OS versions. 
Neither Mac OS nor Linux are better, they are even worse. I hope that ReactOS will get more support in the future, as all my old equipment (Win NT drivers) works/should work with it, but it is just 32 bit and still in low alpha version development. Currently I try to get my old Leica DC cameras to work with it - if I should succeed, I will post a message!

Torsten

Am 07.01.17, 09:13, Andreas Bruckbauer <[log in to unmask]> schrieb:

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I think microscopy vendors and software companies need to work together to provide a better solution. We need an operating system made for running complex instruments, which is more stable and has a longer shelf live than the current Windows versions. The microscope companies need to work hand in hand with IT to verify updates which are then automatically pushed out to the machines. We need easy to use fast and safe internet access to copy large amounts of data and every additional step and hardware in-between is an obstacle. I wonder how this is done in the medical field?

Best wishes

Andreas

-----Original Message-----
From: "Rubin" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: ‎07/‎01/‎2017 00:12
To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: To update or not to update - that is the question

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We also have been told by manufacturers to turn off windows updates
completely to keep the imaging applications working properly. If the
workstation
is dedicated for imaging and can be kept off internet, I wouldn't update OS
unless it is super necessary. For data storage and transferring, our
facility is using a online server from university IT. Our users upload
their data from facility workstations directly to this server, Then they
can download their files to data room computers for analysis or their lab
computers through university intranet. I feel it is easy-to-use for users
and can keep their data safer.

Guobin Sun, Ph.D.
Light Microscopy Specialist
Centre for High-Throughput Phenogenomics
Faculty of Dentistry, The University of British Columbia
2405 Wesbrook Mall, Vancouver, BC , Canada V6T 1Z3
Phone: 604-822-2873 Fax: 604-822-3562


On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 1:19 PM Craig Brideau <[log in to unmask]>
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> Again this is where that 'nanny' computer that acts as a gateway to the
> main network can be useful. It is also possible to configure some routers
> to act as a network isolator, but using a full-fledged computer helps ease
> data transfer and management in some cases.
>
> Craig
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:12 PM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> >
> > Ah, yes, this is a bone of contention with our IT people. In my
> > experience, Windows updates write something to the registry(ies) that
> then
> > disables the software down the track. Possibly something in the local
> image
> > interferes with the software as well. We now disallow automatic Windows
> > updates on all instruments – SEM, FTIR microscope, fluorescence and
> > dissecting scopes, confocals, and also don’t allow the local image to be
> > mapped to the instruments. As Jacqui says, the second time the whole
> system
> > crashes, you pay. It does mean that the instruments have to be on their
> own
> > separate LAN “for security”, but that’s a much lesser price to pay.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Roesmary
> >
> > Dr Rosemary White
> > CSIRO Black Mountain
> > GPO Box 1700
> > Canberra, ACT 2601
> > Australia
> >
> > T 61 2 6246 5475
> > E [log in to unmask]
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> >
> > On 6/1/17, 7:49 am, "Confocal Microscopy List on behalf of Jacqui Ross" <
> > [log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask]
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> > wrote:
> >
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> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > When we bought our Zeiss LSM 710, Windows updates were automatically
> > enabled. About 1 month after purchase, the entire system crashed and
> > everything had to be reinstalled on the computer. We were advised to
> > disable automatic updates. We did this but sadly our institution had a
> > policy of forcing updates to be enabled on any computer on the network
> (to
> > stop individual creating security risks) so unbeknown to us, it became
> > enabled again. Needless to say, the whole thing went down again and this
> > time we had to pay for the computer to be reimaged which was a little
> > costly as the engineer had to come from Australia to do this but
> obviously
> > this was our fault.
> >
> > After this costly exercise, we were able to add the LSM 710 computer
> > to an Exclusion list for the faculty, which is supposed to exclude these
> > particular computers from any updates. So far, so good. Essential updates
> > are installed manually.
> >
> > We do run NOD32 antivirus on the Zeiss systems but not on the
> Olympus.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jacqui
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:CONFOCALMICROSCOPY@
> > LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of WAINWRIGHT James
> > Sent: Friday, 6 January 2017 5:44 a.m.
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: To update or not to update - that is the question
> >
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> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I think it's also worth mentioning that Windows updates may be
> > confused with device driver updates.
> >
> > In my personal experience, Windows updates (i.e. software updates to
> > the operating system) are rarely the problem.
> >
> > However, device driver updates may interfere with an imaging system
> > due to the fact the manufacturer will (probably) test with a known set of
> > drivers, which device updates could disrupt.
> >
> > On a Windows 7 system for example, Windows Device Driver updates can
> > be disabled from Control Panel, Devices & Printers and right-clicking the
> > computer icon. This will bring up a menu that includes "Device
> installation
> > settings".
> >
> > i.e. these driver updates can be disabled separately from Windows
> > updates.
> >
> > My feeling is that the blanket rule of "disable Windows updates"
> would
> > be better articulated as "disable windows device driver updates"...
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:CONFOCALMICROSCOPY@
> > LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of Periasamy, Ammasi (ap3t)
> > Sent: 05 January 2017 15:36
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> > Subject: Re: To update or not to update - that is the question
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> > In general the microscopy companies service engineers do not like the
> > Windows automatic update.
> > We are using Zeiss780, we have been advised not to allow the Windows
> > automatic update.
> >
> > Dr. Ammasi Periasamy
> > Center Director, W.M. Keck Center for Cellular Imaging Professor of
> > Biology and Biomedical Engg.
> > Univeristy of Virginia, Charlottesville
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> > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:CONFOCALMICROSCOPY@
> > LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of Vaughan, Andrew
> > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:24 AM
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> > Dear All,
> >
> > This email relates to discussions I've had with Zeiss representatives
> > in the UK, although it could just as easily apply to other microscope
> > manufacturers. I have been looking for clear guidance on whether Windows
> > updates should be installed on acquisition or analysis PCs. The people I
> > have spoken to at Zeiss have different opinions on the matter, which
> > indicates that Zeiss does not have a particular policy (or that not
> > everyone knows it). I have been advised by some people to switch off
> > updates completely because an update could interfere with the acquisition
> > system. I have also been told that this advice refers to older AIM-based
> > systems running Windows XP and is not relevant for new machines, which
> ship
> > with Windows updates set to Automatic. I'd like to know if anyone else
> has
> > had discussions like this with Zeiss or any other company and whether
> there
> > is a consensus on in-house policies for keeping computers patched. It is
> > likely that companies have region-specific advice since I have been told
> > that warranties are more extensive in some regions compared to others.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Yours sincerely,
> >
> > Andrew Vaughan.
> >
> >
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