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Well, I don't know what web space all you good folk have available to you but there's no way I have access to anywhere enough to post the several gigabytes of images which lie behind a typical confocal / multiphoton / second harmonic paper. My University web site allows me something like 10Mb which wouldn't hold a single Z-stack or spectral series. And it will go as soon as I leave the University - so much for being archival. My private (paid for) site has a lot more but still nowhere near enough, and it's only there as long as I pay the bills.
It's all very well to say you can but a terabyte drive for however many dollars, but that's just the start. There's the power to run it (and replace it every few years), there's the backup facility without which it's not remotely archival, and most of all there's the bandwidth needed to access it. On the scale people are talking about that's a huge operation. A moderately popular paid site I administer, for example, has 4 GB/month allowed - and comes close to it every month. That's not involving any confocal images! When I put the Pawley/Cox Zeiss Diffraction Kit simulation on my personal site, and announced it to this list, it reached the site quota within 48 hours, and shut the whole thing down.
About the only way you could have a sensible archive would be to get authors to mail a few DVDs to some sort of repository. Then anyone would wanted to check the data could pay a search fee and get copies of the disks. The search fee would not be cheap, though. And since most Universities have rules requiring authors to keep data for X years anyway, I can't see the point. In any case, anyone who is being selective with the data they publish is likely to be selective in what they archive, too.
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> That's fine. But that's not how most journals work right now, as far
> as I know, and we are talking about how it works now. If, five or ten
> years from now, paper journals are no longer the standard, then the
> limitations won't exist. As long as they do, however, they do.
>
> billo
>
This is true, however it is not uncommon to see 40-60 pages supplementary data in Science or Nature papers nowadays. Furthermore, as Larry pointed out, nothing keeps you today from hosting your 140 pages pdf by yourself (your university, your lab...) and link to it in your article, as a web link only takes half a line in a paper !
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