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Subject:Re: Stickney Road, Sax Zim
From:Stevan Hawkins <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Stevan Hawkins <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:31:37 -0600


What about some person with Kim Eckert's book who is new to birding or from
out of state and does not get either of the birding bulletin boards for
Minnesota?  Nobody whether local or out of state should have to worry about
their safety while driving down a public road or stopping along that public
road.  If all of the birders stop driving on Stickney Road, that pretty much
guarantees that that guy is going to harm/kill a local person.


Stevan Hawkins
San Antonio TX

-----Original Message-----
From: Minnesota Birds [mailto:MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bernard P.
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [mou-net] Stickney Road, Sax Zim

Ladies and Gentlemen, I believe a little perspective is in order.
     The issue appears to be whether you wish to roll the dice with the
lives of birds or the lives of human beings.
     This guy apparently has a history as a menace and sooner or later
someone will be hurt or worse.
     I come to the discussion with about 60 years as a lawyer and I agree
with my colleagues that this man is a disaster waiting to happen.   Those of
us who are connected to this information network are able to avoid the area,
but there are birders who will have no idea about the potential danger. I
should think the local population would be more concerned about the
potential problem, and I guess I would like to hear from them as to why or
why not we should  view this man as a potential danger.  Perhaps a little
history from them would be helpful.

Bernie Friel
Bernard P. Friel
     North American Nature Photography Association
     American Society of Picture Professionals
     International Society of Aviation Photography
     The Explorers Club
Web Pages -  ;
     Owl Gallery

> From: Holly Peirson <hpbirdscouter@MSN.COM>
> Reply-To: Holly Peirson <hpbirdscouter@MSN.COM>
> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:33:51 -0600
> Subject: Re: [mou-net] Stickney Road, Sax Zim
> I am coming in to the middle/end of this conversation... Wonder if anyone
> posted an address or nearby intersection so we can mark it on our maps of
> the bog and stay away from that area as much as possible... Or drive by
> area more quickly, not stopping to see birds...
> I agree with Ben, we want the birds to be safe, too. Winter provides
> of a hardship for them.
> Today I've been watching the Barred Owl hunt near/under my feeders, where
> the vole tunnels are slowly being exposed due to snow melt.
> Holly Peirson
> Columbus, Anoka Co.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Minnesota Birds [mailto:MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of Ben
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:12 AM
> Subject: [mou-net] Stickney Road, Sax Zim
> Based on conversations we have had with our friends and neighbors, we
> that any interaction with this individual (be it with birders or law
> enforcement) will potentially have a negative impact on owls and other
> conspicuous birds and wildlife in the area.  My advice, for the sake of
> owls, is just to move on.
> Ben Yokel
> Cotton, MN
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