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Subject:Re: [mou-net] Whooping Cranes and lists vs. memories
From:Larry Sirvio <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Larry Sirvio <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:25:54 -0600

Why not see it in Rice Co and then wait for that group of birds to become 
established.:))  Then is should count.

Larry S
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From: "" <hagsela@AOL.COM>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:24 AM
Subject: [mou-net] Whooping Cranes and lists vs. memories

It perhaps bears repeating that these birds would not be "countable" on 
state or life (or county lists).  This restriction only applies if you are 
submitting numbers to the ABA or MOU, for example.  I went to Silver Lake in 
Rochester some years ago to see a Smew.  I did so with the knowledge that I 
could not count the bird on the state, year, county and life lists I 
maintain.  I will, however have the memory of that strikingly beautiful bird 
forever.  If birds are known not to be countable (in the case of the Smew, 
it was a known escaped bird), it would be helpful to especially newer 
birders to have that information.  Whooping Cranes in SE MN have been from 
the Necedah flock that is not yet considered established, i.e. not able to 
sustain itself in the wild.  The hope is that one year, the efforts to 
reestablish this birds on the eastern flyway migration route will result in 
a wild flock.  Since I hope to see my life Whooping Cranes in Texas (or 
western MN, provided there's no evidence they're from the WI group) I've 
chosen not to travel to Rice County.  If you know all this and want to see 
this magnificent pair of birds, I hope you are able to get great memories 
from your visit.


Linda Sparling

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