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Subject:Re: withholding info on rare birds
From:Richard Wood <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Richard Wood <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Thu, 3 Nov 2011 19:24:37 -0700

Also be aware that each time you do give a specific location, you are risking setting up a circus-like environment, a la that which occured at the two Long Eared Owl site in Maryland a few years ago.
At first only one birder knew the exact site, and if you wanted to see the birds, you'd contact him and he's meet you at a certain place and take you there,  Unfortunately, the location got out and it turned into a zoo.


From: Fr. Paul Kammen <fr.paul@DELANOCATHOLIC.COM>
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [mou-net] withholding info on rare birds

On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 20:36:05 -0500, Thamnophis <thamnophis@GMAIL.COM> 

>I'm new here and should probably keep my mouth shut, but that has
>never been easy for me :-)
>I think sharing the localities is a good thing because it offers an
>opportunity to remind newbies - like me - to abide by some guidelines.
>For instance, one might give the location of a particular bird then
>add something like, "Newbies: this is a rare and easily disturbed
>species so please stay on the road" or "The feeders are on private
>property so please respect that".
>The list and this community aren't really served by reporting a
>certain species at a certain park, for instance, without specific
>locality info. Why play that game? So species X has been sighted at
>State Park Y...great. Its more than likely a species that has been at
>the park every year for 50 years - so why even bother reporting it?
>There is no doubt problems with some birders / photographers behavior,
>but welcome to planet earth. It comes with the territory. I think
>there is greater good that comes from sharing locality info and
>feeling free to preach a little about ethical behavior, keeping an eye
>out for those who are not respectful of the habitat and wildlife or
>even reporting what you may see as disturbing a protected species.
>But policing the info shared on a community list is not tenable in my
>opinion. Imagine if everyone posting had to worry about whether they
>were giving away too much info. I think a better solution is for
>posters to use there own best judgement and do as they see in the best
>interest of the birds and the community of birders.
Hi Joe,
Thanks for your post - I could not agree more. As a birder and photographer 
it's helpful for me to know where things are. Frankly if someone refuses to 
share and just posts about something they saw I wouldn't mind a flock of 
house sparrows setting up permanent residence near their feeders. Then why 
on earth share the information? Adding the info about being careful is a great 
idea as well to re-iterate to people to not get too close and to respect private 

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