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Karoline Dehnhard <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:44:00 -0600
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The playback feature is great. People who come to the wave late can see 
how the wave evolved and so can not feel like they missed something.

Thanks for all of the discussion. Here are some of my questions: what 
shouldn't Google Wave be used for? How public is it? Do we really want 
what we use it for to be public? Who can use the wave contents and for 
what? Can we keep the content private (so that only people who are 
invited to the wave see it and can not forward it elsewhere) if we choose?

Happy waving...


Zachary Johnson wrote:
> I think you are on to something... for one, I don't think Google can 
> keep delivering new features to satisfy an ever growing and demanding 
> audience while also maintaining quality.  Quality for simple software 
> is exponentially easier to deliver.  I've even started to notice that 
> GMail and Google Maps aren't as impressive as they once were.  Seems 
> like "becoming the next Microsoft" is the perfect analogy?
> Andre Leroux wrote:
>> I think it all comes in "waves" - pun intended
>> early 80's it was IBM and the personal PC
>> late 80's the Macintosh in schools
>> 90's Windows hammers the majority of the market
>> 2000's Google becomes the new windows, microsoft office, and internet 
>> explorer.
>> I would say we can draw some simulations of google's current 
>> existence to the windows 95/NT days.
>> Soon every business will be using them, and eventually everyone will 
>> be saying google is evil.
>> Perhaps that is already happening in the "LEET" status.
>> Anyone remember 98-2003.
>> Every office had windows and nothing else was compatible with it.
>> Andre
>> Zachary Johnson wrote:
>>> Huh, you sure are giving Google a lot of credit!  Nothing wrong with 
>>> that I suppose.
>>> Me... I'm skeptical.  Email revolutionized communication and became 
>>> a standard way for people to interact on the internet, but there's a 
>>> thousand different email applications, both desktop and web based. 
>>> There's even the divide between plain text and HTML emails.
>>> The web browser may be a better example of a revolutionary 
>>> communications platform that (despite the variety of choices 
>>> available and the differences between them) comes close to 
>>> presenting a "standard interface through which the majority of 
>>> people interact" with the internet.
>>> Wave *may* just prove to be the standard protocol for a 
>>> revolutionized internet communication (still skeptical) but I just 
>>> don't see everybody interacting with the internet through some sort 
>>> of Google-made Wave Browser.  Google has at least been smart enough 
>>> to open up the protocol, which may make a future where there are 
>>> several competing Wave browsers on the market just like web browsers 
>>> now.  Perhaps you weren't suggesting anything more than that, Patrick.
>>> If Wave proves to be nothing more than another web application that 
>>> you interact with in your web browser, then I don't really see it 
>>> being *the* ubiquitous feature of post-Web 2.0.  I think it'll just 
>>> be one of many things we use.  Well... if we use it at all.  Not all 
>>> of Google's inventions are successful.  And so far, the few times 
>>> where I thought to myself "Ooh! I could use a Wave for this!" I've 
>>> been really disappointed with the User Experience.
>>> Ok, I'll give Google some credit, too: They must be doing something 
>>> right if we're even having this conversation.
>>> Zach
>>> Patrick Haggerty wrote:
>>>> Right now, I think Wave is more a toy than a full tool.  Part of 
>>>> that is its feature set isn't complete and part is that we're all 
>>>> treating it like a toy.  What I think Wave is ultimately going to 
>>>> become is a unified interface for Web 2.0.  If they manage to 
>>>> integrate the service into social networks and blogs and forums and 
>>>> so on, we'll have one interface for the majority of online 
>>>> contribution and collaboration.  Sure it's advertised as the next 
>>>> iteration of email, but I think its greater contribution will be to 
>>>> standardize the interface through which the majority of people 
>>>> interact with the web.
>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Peter Fleck <[log in to unmask] 
>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>>     Google Wave has been fairly successful in organizing the Other
>>>>     Future of News (OFON) conference. Julio Ojeda-Zapata provides some
>>>>     details at the Pi Press site.
>>>> http://blogs.twincities.com/yourtechweblog/2009/12/local-media-writer-harnesses-google-wave-for-planning.html 
>>>>     ======================
>>>>     Peter Fleck
>>>>     [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>     612-424-5107
>>>> -- 
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Patrick Haggerty
>>>> Office of Information Technology
>>>>      University of Minnesota   Email: [log in to unmask] 
>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Phone: 612-626-5807

Karoline Dehnhard
Web Designer
272 Appleby Hall
University of Minnesota