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Terence Brashear <[log in to unmask]>
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Terence Brashear <[log in to unmask]>
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Personal discussion such as this should be taken off line please.

MOU-Moderator.

Terry Brashear

Hennepin County, MN

http://www.naturepixels.com

birdnird AT yahoo.com

--- On Wed, 6/15/11, Chuck Cole <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: Chuck Cole <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [mou-net] FW: [mou-net] Golden Eagles harmed by wind turbines
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 12:43 PM

The studies done by orgs in FL were not restricted to sites in FL.  I was being brief in my citation.  Bird behavior is not limited
to states.  They are migratory, as you may discover.  Windmills and other towers are located in other places than SW MN.  You should
actually look up actual studies, as I did when previously involved effects of towers and other "light pollution".  Your opinions
seem unfounded.


Chuck
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Eric Harrold [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
  Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:38 PM
  To: [log in to unmask]; Chuck Cole
  Subject: Re: [mou-net] FW: [mou-net] Golden Eagles harmed by wind turbines


        Chuck,

        Simply put, Florida is not southwest Minnesota...for a variety of reasons. I do not find the comparison valid. Much more
concentrated movement through Florida.

        Eric Harrold

        --- On Wed, 6/15/11, Chuck Cole <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


          From: Chuck Cole <[log in to unmask]>
          Subject: [mou-net] FW: [mou-net] Golden Eagles harmed by wind turbines
          To: [log in to unmask]
          Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 11:04 AM


          -----Original Message-----
          From: Chuck Cole [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
          Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 2:45 PM
          To: Eric Harrold
          Subject: RE: [mou-net] Golden Eagles harmed by wind turbines


          Studies done in Florida by the FL Conservation Society and Audubon, etc, showed that ANY towers are hazards to migratory
birds....
          lighted towers especially.  Lights are required aircraft warnings on power towers, airport towers, windmills, radio and TV
towers,
          tall buildings, and so on.   The type of tower makes little difference.

          Chuck


          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: Minnesota Birds [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Eric
          > Harrold
          > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:59 PM
          > To: [log in to unmask]
          > Subject: Re: [mou-net] Golden Eagles harmed by wind turbines
          >
          >
          > Perhaps the most unfortunate aspect of wind energy is the notion that we (society) have to tailor everything to the
          > corporate model. In other words, we could utilize residential scale turbines that pose a much lesser risk to migrating
          > birds. But the turbines in the Midwest pose little threat anyway when placed in big rowcrop ag fields where there is
          > little concentrated bird movement. The Appalachian region and similar mountainous places are another story...
          >
          > Eric Harrold
          >
          > --- On Mon, 6/13/11, linda whyte <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
          >
          >
          > From: linda whyte <[log in to unmask]>
          > Subject: Re: [mou-net] Golden Eagles harmed by wind turbines
          > To: [log in to unmask]
          > Date: Monday, June 13, 2011, 6:37 PM
          >
          >
          > It is indeed, unfortunate. There seems to be no escaping the
          > conclusion that all forms of energy production come at some kind of
          > price. We need to minimize the "side-effects" or collateral damages of
          > all of them---and start by examining our own energy consumption.
          > Linda Whyte
          >
          > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Jim Ryan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
          > > This is most unfortunate:
          > >
          > > http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=20764&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DPD
          > >
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          > > Sincerely,
          > >
          > > Jim Ryan
          > > Saint Paul's Westside
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          > > Nature shall not be broken. -* Leo Tolstoy*
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          > > A well governed appetite is the greater part of liberty. - *Lucius Annaeus
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