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Can somebody explain why it is so essential to have cellphones in the confocal room?  

                                                                                                         Guy

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Subject: Re: Tin Foil Hats (Was: Re: Possible cell phone interference with hybrid detectors)...

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Heh heh, and it would be useful to control the confocal by mind control...

On 12/07/13 6:53 AM, "Tim Feinstein" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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>I am a little concerned about the use of aluminum as a blocking agent 
>here.  Not only is aluminum inert as far as magnets are concerned, but 
>its use to block mind control waves in the radio spectrum is in fact 
>counterproductive, as shown by a research team at MIT in 2005:
>
>[...] According to several (apparent) students from MIT who tested 
>several hat designs, there was "a 30 db amplification at 2.6 Ghz and a 
>20 db amplification at 1.2 Ghz, regardless of the position of the 
>antenna on the cranium."
>
>The students note that "the helmets amplify frequency bands that 
>coincide with those allocated to the US government between 1.2 Ghz and 1.4 Ghz.
>According to the FCC, These bands are supposedly reserved for 'radio 
>location' (ie, GPS), and other communications with satellites."[...]
>
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/11/tinfoil_hats_as_government_plot
>/
>
>The original results have since disappeared from the web, suspiciously 
>enough.  Though it may coincide with the student's personal web page 
>expiring when he graduated I think we can agree that the episode raises 
>more questions than it answers.
>
>Cheers,
>
>TF
>
>Timothy Feinstein, Ph.D.
>
>On Jul 11, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Vladimir Zhukarev 
><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Yep,
>> No miracles, no aliens here. Electronics is a science of electric 
>>contacts, as we all know. It takes just one contact with out of range 
>>stray capacitance, so that with rest of the electric transmittance 
>>chain this will create a sensitive antenna (receiver) for specific 
>>radio frequencies. Purely manufacturing issue. Needs clean up from the 
>>provider.
>> Cheers
>> Vladimir
>> 
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>> --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Tin Foil Hats (Was: Re:
>>Possible cell phone interference with hybrid detectors)...
>> From: "Peter Gabriel Pitrone" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: 7/11/13 2:35 am
>> To: [log in to unmask]
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>> Hey All,
>> 
>> I use Aluminum foil to ward off the aliens stealing my thoughts, and 
>> of course to ward off WiFi and Cellphone signals... So yeah, that 
>> should help with the HyD detectors. ;-)
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>> --
>> Peter Gabriel Pitrone - TechRMS
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>> "If a straight line fit is required, obtain only two data points." - 
>>Anon.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, July 10, 2013 8:10 am, Sylvie Le Guyader wrote:
>> <|> *****
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>> <|> Hi out there
>> <|>
>> <|> Same experience for us. We were getting random interference lines 
>>from  <|> our bright field detector on a NikonA1. It was not linked to 
>>cell phones  <|> though but from the cables of another system that 
>>stands very nearby.
>> <|> Shielding the cables with alu foil worked a charm.
>> <|> Sylvie
>> <|>
>> <|> On 9 Jul 2013, at 23:50, "Alexander,Steve"
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>> <|> wrote:
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>> <|> *****
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>> <|> You could try to shield them with aluminum foil. I tried that to 
>>find a  <|> interference source on a different system and it worked!
>> <|>
>> <|> Steve Alexander
>> <|>
>> <|>
>> <|>
>> <|> -----Original Message-----
>> <|> From: Confocal Microscopy List
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>> <|> On Behalf Of Yevgeniy Romin
>> <|> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 4:36 PM  <|> To: 
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>> <|> Subject: Re: Possible cell phone interference with hybrid 
>>detectors  <|>  <|> *****  <|> To join, leave or search the confocal 
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>> <|>
>> <|> Hi Ben
>> <|>
>> <|> We have the same problem with one of our sp5 systems that has 
>>HyDs on  it.
>> <|> Every once in a while you see a saturated line across the image. 
>>We have  <|> been careful with cell phones around the system, but 
>>these lines tend to  <|> happen anyway every once in a while. We had 
>>them happen just from a door  <|> opening or closing on the room. My 
>>impression is that while cell phones  <|> could be part of the 
>>problem, they are probably not the only ones.
>>There
>> <|> could be plenty of equipment or anything else in the room that 
>>sometimes  <|> interferes. We have these lines very rarely, but I 
>>can't think of a  <|> scenario where they are completely guaranteed 
>>not to show up.
>> <|>
>> <|> That being said, we have two other inverted systems, an sp5 with 
>>3 HyDs  <|> and an SP8 with 2 HyDs. We never see any interference 
>>lines on these  <|> systems, no matter what is going on in the room. 
>>My theory is that the  <|> HyDs on the inverted scanheads are hidden 
>>away towards the rear of the  <|> microscope and are perhaps better 
>>shielded from interference then those  <|> on the upright system, 
>>where they are just sticking out in the open. I  <|> communicated this 
>>theory to Leica, and they said that this could  <|> potentially be an 
>>explanation, but they haven't yet come up with any  idea  <|> for 
>>potential shielding of them.
>> <|>
>> <|> Hope this helps,
>> <|> Yevgeniy
>> <|>
>> <|>
>> <|>
>> <|>
>> <|> Jul 9, 2013, &times; 5:24 PM, "Alison North"
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>> <|> &Icirc;&Aacute;&ETH;&Eacute;&Oacute;&Aacute;&Igrave;(&Aacute;):
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>> <|>> Hi Ben,
>> <|>>
>> <|>> We were warned by the Leica guys not to use cellphones anywhere 
>>near  <|>> the scan head on the SP8 - in fact it has a great big 
>>picture of a  <|>> cellphone with a line through it on the scanhead! - 
>>so I guess it is a  <|>> well-known problem, not a special "feature" 
>>of your system.
>> <|>>
>> <|>> Best wishes,
>> <|>> Alison
>> <|>>
>> <|>> On 7/9/2013 5:13 PM, Smith, Benjamin E. wrote:
>> <|>>> *****
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>> <|>>> Hi all,
>> <|>>> Our Leica SP8 has a pair of HyD detectors, and I've noticed  
>><|>>> recently that we will get a series of saturated lines during a 
>>scan  <|>>> at random, intermittent moments. Judging by their 
>>appearance, my  <|>>> guess has been that the detectors were picking 
>>up cellular data  <|>>> transmissions. Every time I saw them, someone 
>>had a cell phone on  <|>>> them, and having them move the cell phone 
>>to the far side of the  <|>>> room, or turning the cell phone off, 
>>stopped the lines from  <|>>> occurring.
>> <|>>>
>> <|>>> I was wondering if anyone else has noticed this with hybrid  
>><|>>> detectors, and whether this is normal behavior or something we 
>>need  <|>>> to have looked into.
>> <|>>>
>> <|>>> Thanks,
>> <|>>> Ben Smith
>> <|>>>
>> <|>>> Benjamin E. Smith, Ph.D.
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