That's interesting. I could see a lot of demand for a unified way to create response content on community-based websites. Especially if you didn't have to create another user login at each one. I am somewhat nervous of the web going in that direction, though. What if users *expect* a Google Wave-based comments/response system *but* Google Wave is actually way crappier than some competing product? Or isn't accessible? That's going to be a very tricky thing to resolve as a developer. Patrick Haggerty wrote: > I was thinking of it more along the lines of a content management system > than a web browser. If Google manages to implement the features they > demoed in their I/O presentation and they make it easy for web > developers to integrate Wave-hosted features into their sites, I see the > potential for Wave to standardize the interface people use to contribute > to blogs, forums, social networks, etc. > > As an example: a user goes to comment on a blog post and is given the > same tools in the same configuration with the same terminology and > iconography as she had when she wrote a product review at another web > site, which was the same interface she had while posting an update to a > social network. I think if Wave is going to make any real impact, this > is the kind of impact it could make, and the kind of impact that most > interests me. If it's just shooting to replace email, I think it'll > have the same issue BluRay is having: it's better, but most people are > just fine with their library of DVDs, thank you very much. > > Wave can't do any of this right now, and I'm skeptical any tool will be > able to bring all these different forms of communication and > collaboration under one roof. It's exciting to see the ambition, > though, and from a company that may just have the time, capital, and > expertise to pull it off. > > That, or I'm just fond of Google's Kool-Aid these days. Mmmmm, Wild > Berry Blash. So good...... =o) > > Pat > > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Zachary Johnson <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > Huh, you sure are giving Google a lot of credit! Nothing wrong with > that I suppose. > > Me... I'm skeptical. Email revolutionized communication and became > a standard way for people to interact on the internet, but there's a > thousand different email applications, both desktop and web based. > There's even the divide between plain text and HTML emails. > > The web browser may be a better example of a revolutionary > communications platform that (despite the variety of choices > available and the differences between them) comes close to > presenting a "standard interface through which the majority of > people interact" with the internet. > > Wave *may* just prove to be the standard protocol for a > revolutionized internet communication (still skeptical) but I just > don't see everybody interacting with the internet through some sort > of Google-made Wave Browser. Google has at least been smart enough > to open up the protocol, which may make a future where there are > several competing Wave browsers on the market just like web browsers > now. Perhaps you weren't suggesting anything more than that, Patrick. > > If Wave proves to be nothing more than another web application that > you interact with in your web browser, then I don't really see it > being *the* ubiquitous feature of post-Web 2.0. I think it'll just > be one of many things we use. Well... if we use it at all. Not all > of Google's inventions are successful. And so far, the few times > where I thought to myself "Ooh! I could use a Wave for this!" I've > been really disappointed with the User Experience. > > Ok, I'll give Google some credit, too: They must be doing something > right if we're even having this conversation. > > Zach > > > Patrick Haggerty wrote: > > Right now, I think Wave is more a toy than a full tool. Part of > that is its feature set isn't complete and part is that we're > all treating it like a toy. What I think Wave is ultimately > going to become is a unified interface for Web 2.0. If they > manage to integrate the service into social networks and blogs > and forums and so on, we'll have one interface for the majority > of online contribution and collaboration. Sure it's advertised > as the next iteration of email, but I think its greater > contribution will be to standardize the interface through which > the majority of people interact with the web. > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Peter Fleck <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <mailto:[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>> wrote: > > Google Wave has been fairly successful in organizing the Other > Future of News (OFON) conference. Julio Ojeda-Zapata provides > some > details at the Pi Press site. > > > http://blogs.twincities.com/yourtechweblog/2009/12/local-media-writer-harnesses-google-wave-for-planning.html > > > > ====================== > Peter Fleck > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > > 612-424-5107 > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Patrick Haggerty > > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > Email: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > Phone: 612-626-5807 > > > -- > ______________________________ > Zachary Johnson * Web Manager > Student Unions & Activities > (612) 624 - 7270 > http://www.sua.umn.edu/ > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Patrick Haggerty > > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > > Email: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Phone: 612-626-5807 -- ______________________________ Zachary Johnson * Web Manager Student Unions & Activities (612) 624 - 7270 http://www.sua.umn.edu/