Maybe this has changed in the last 9mo or so, but when last I checked it was somewhat difficult to get Windows to speak git, with dependencies on Cygwin. That's a large hurdle for console-averse users when you can get full GUI Subversion integration with TortoiseSVN. +++++++++++++++++ Michael Berkowski Minitex / MnLINK Linux Systems Administrator and Programmer University of Minnesota 612.625.8736 [log in to unmask] PGP Public key: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~berk0081/pgp/pubkey.asc +++++++++++++++++ On 5/3/2010 3:26 PM, Aaron J. Zirbes wrote: > Christian, > > I was unaware that Git spoke SVN, but that being the case I can get > behind Git as well. I just mentioned SVN due to DreamWeaver having > built-in support and I know many web developers use it, myself excluded. > I'd rather have a server that speaks Git and SVN as well as it is much > more open. > > Does anyone know who is responsible for deciding what services OIT > provides? Who would we talk to? Should we send a request to our > Schools IT Director? > > -- > Aaron > > Christian Dinger wrote: >> Hi Aaron, >> >> I couldn't agree more. The ASR web team uses Git (we moved from >> Subversion a few years ago), but we'd love to see a centralized source >> code hosting service from OIT. Not only does it make good security >> sense, but I think it'd also provide a mechanism for >> inter-departmental collaboration. Just think of things like CAH >> authentication code and how hard it is sometimes to track down source >> code and authors to contribute changes/patches. >> >> I've mentioned this idea a while ago to Patton Fast, who runs the OIA >> server team at OIT and he seemed into it. I think we just have to >> speak up and demonstrate that there is a demand for a service like this. >> >> I also absolutely agree with Garrett about Git. In a collaborative >> environment, it's superior. Git also has web more capable front-ends >> like GitHub and Gitorious that handle collaboration very elegantly. >> >> In fact, Gitorious is open-source and free. I think it would be such >> an quick and easy win for OIT to set up an instance of Gitorious. Then >> the we the developers could manage our own repositories and access; it >> would be minimal work for OIT. >> >> Would you all be into something like this? Patton, are you on this list? >> >> Chris >> >> PS - Git also 'talks Subversion' and moving between the two is >> ridiculously simple. >> >> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Aaron J. Zirbes <[log in to unmask] >> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >> >> U of MN Developers, >> >> Is there anyone (besides me) out there on the list that feels that a >> common-good SVN service would be a good idea? Bad idea? Not sure? >> >> As a web, application and systems developer I feel that I couldn't >> do my >> job with out a proper revision control system (RCS). It gives me a >> giant UNDO button for all of my projects to any commit point in time. >> It forces me to comment all my changes. It gives me the confidence I >> need to make sweeping changes to a system without the worry of >> "how do I >> undo this?" >> >> Using SVN has become almost trivial as most development platforms >> (Adobe >> Dreamweaver included) support SVN out of the box. >> >> We run our own subversion (SVN) server at EnHS for our department's >> needs, but I'd be willing to guess that most departments do not. >> >> I know not all departments are large enough to support their own SVN >> server, but I feel that any one who isn't using some sort of RCS in >> their web development is suffering because of it. It is putting >> developers and their work at too much risk. I think that all >> developers >> at the U should have access to SVN, but for that to happen, U of MN >> central would have to set it up as a common-good service. >> >> -- >> Aaron >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Christian Dinger >> Academic Support Resources >> University of Minnesota >> 612-625-6031