On 5/3/2010 3:26 PM, Aaron J. Zirbes wrote:
> Christian,
>
> I was unaware that Git spoke SVN, but that being the case I can get
> behind Git as well. I just mentioned SVN due to DreamWeaver having
> built-in support and I know many web developers use it, myself excluded.
> I'd rather have a server that speaks Git and SVN as well as it is much
> more open.
>
> Does anyone know who is responsible for deciding what services OIT
> provides? Who would we talk to? Should we send a request to our
> Schools IT Director?
>
> --
> Aaron
>
> Christian Dinger wrote:
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> I couldn't agree more. The ASR web team uses Git (we moved from
>> Subversion a few years ago), but we'd love to see a centralized source
>> code hosting service from OIT. Not only does it make good security
>> sense, but I think it'd also provide a mechanism for
>> inter-departmental collaboration. Just think of things like CAH
>> authentication code and how hard it is sometimes to track down source
>> code and authors to contribute changes/patches.
>>
>> I've mentioned this idea a while ago to Patton Fast, who runs the OIA
>> server team at OIT and he seemed into it. I think we just have to
>> speak up and demonstrate that there is a demand for a service like this.
>>
>> I also absolutely agree with Garrett about Git. In a collaborative
>> environment, it's superior. Git also has web more capable front-ends
>> like GitHub and Gitorious that handle collaboration very elegantly.
>>
>> In fact, Gitorious is open-source and free. I think it would be such
>> an quick and easy win for OIT to set up an instance of Gitorious. Then
>> the we the developers could manage our own repositories and access; it
>> would be minimal work for OIT.
>>
>> Would you all be into something like this? Patton, are you on this list?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> PS - Git also 'talks Subversion' and moving between the two is
>> ridiculously simple.
>>
>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Aaron J. Zirbes <
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>> U of MN Developers,
>>
>> Is there anyone (besides me) out there on the list that feels that a
>> common-good SVN service would be a good idea? Bad idea? Not sure?
>>
>> As a web, application and systems developer I feel that I couldn't
>> do my
>> job with out a proper revision control system (RCS). It gives me a
>> giant UNDO button for all of my projects to any commit point in time.
>> It forces me to comment all my changes. It gives me the confidence I
>> need to make sweeping changes to a system without the worry of
>> "how do I
>> undo this?"
>>
>> Using SVN has become almost trivial as most development platforms
>> (Adobe
>> Dreamweaver included) support SVN out of the box.
>>
>> We run our own subversion (SVN) server at EnHS for our department's
>> needs, but I'd be willing to guess that most departments do not.
>>
>> I know not all departments are large enough to support their own SVN
>> server, but I feel that any one who isn't using some sort of RCS in
>> their web development is suffering because of it. It is putting
>> developers and their work at too much risk. I think that all
>> developers
>> at the U should have access to SVN, but for that to happen, U of MN
>> central would have to set it up as a common-good service.
>>
>> --
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Christian Dinger
>> Academic Support Resources
>> University of Minnesota
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