... be careful with your claims of freedom. Richard Stallman would not agree. Focusing on the price point aspect of free... To serve up a public facing, database backed web page at the U of M, only $760 in licensing SQL Svr Web 2008R2 1Proc - $635.00 Win Server Web 2008R2 - $30 Visual Studio 2010 Pro - $0 To serve up a public facing, database backed web page outside the U, just over $5,000 SQL Svr Web 2008R2 1Proc - $3,500.00 Win Server Web 2008R2 - $469 Visual Studio 2010 Pro - $1,199 This can be restrictive when you are working on applications that will be shared with 30+ other sites. Most of which without Microsoft Site Licensing. -- Aaron On 09/17/2010 04:52 PM, Craig Gjerdingen wrote: > I don't know if you're open to it, but I'm pretty partial to Microsoft .Net > framework and platform stack. > > Pretty much everything from the front end to the back end is totally > integrated. It is a wonderful developer/designer experience. > > Additionally, these tools are all available for NO additional cost to you as UMN > staff. But you have to ask for Visual Studio 2010 professional edition from > [log in to unmask] because they don't list it on > https://download.software.umn.edu/ any more (now it is in netfiles) > > In particular the combination of the powerful Visual Studio 2010 IDE, .Net > framework 4.0, Entity Framework or NHibernate, and ASP.Net MVC 2 are a > formidable offering. Again all of this has NO added cost to you. It's all free. > > There are a ton of IOC and ORM offerings in the .Net space so you can easily > choose one to your liking. > > MEF and Unity (dependency injector) are fairly cool too. > > Support, Training, Developer Communities, Books, knowledgeable consultants, > campus expertise, 3rd party vendors are all available. > > One configuration you might want to look at to get started (where someone > else has done the work of picking the pieces for you) would be to look at > http://SharpArchitecture.net/ which is stored on GitHub at > http://github.com/codai/Sharp-Architecture > > Before you choose Ruby/Rails I suggest you investigate deployment difficulties. >