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Hi All!
Thanks for all of the advice on color management. I have received
many good pieces of wisdom and advice. I do agree with printing out your
own CMYK image for the publisher to compare. And absolutely be aware of the
color profile that you are using...not all are the same.
Our issue was for the publisher's web page, which will be shown
in RGB (on monitors). We sent them an RGB file, which they converted to
CMYK (I don't know why-we didn't want the print version to be color), then
converted BACK to RGB for the web page. The color was atrocious. This has
happened with two different journals and publishers now. We are still
having discussions, trying to correct this, before the web page is released.
Thank you for the great discussion on color management.
Has anyone heard of a printer that will do CMYK AND/OR RGB (7
color cartridge)?
Kathy
At 03:11 PM 12/27/04 -0800, you wrote:
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>Dear Kathy,
>Our practice has been to print a high quality image to our
>satisfaction, using either a dye sublimation or an ink jet printer.
>This print is either enclosed with the manuscript or mailed separately
>to the editor, along with files converted to CMYK. The publisher then
>has a reference. So far, most journals have generally done a good job
>of matching our CMYK files to the reference print. A complication in
>conversions to CMYK is that publishers don't say which CMYK they use,
>we we just get it close. I was able to obtain from the Development
>group some time ago that they regularly calibrate their monitors and
>claim usually get the prints to match in 2 attempts. I've found that
>if someone insists that their green fluorescence appear yellowish green
>to match what they see with a typical FITC filter, it is more difficult
>to convert to CMYK than if they can accept a green shaded towards blue.
> As I know you are aware, users need to be alert to which RGB color
>profile Adobe is using, certainly avoiding sRGB, when working with an
>image prior to CMYK conversion.
>
>Regards,
>Glen
>On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:25 PM, Kathy Spencer wrote:
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>>Hello!
>> I have a question regarding publishing of color pictures, both
>>on-line and
>>in print...what has been your experience in getting what you wanted
>>from
>>various publishers?
>> One of my users just showed me an appalling use of the
>>Photoshop clone
>>stamp by the publisher to erase an arrow that they wanted in a
>>different
>>format. Several parts of the cell in this image were duplicated or
>>triplicated...dendrites suddenly appeared where they were not in the
>>original. Again, this was the publisher, not my user doing this. The
>>issue
>>was corrected, but we felt like they were trying to "pull one over on
>>us".
>> In addition, we submitted an RGB version of the image
>>electronically for
>>their web page version, and asked them NOT to convert it to CMYK, as
>>the
>>gamut was distinctly less. They did it anyway. When this was pointed
>>out,
>>they tried to correct it, I'm assuming by converting again. Obviously,
>>the
>>re-re-converted image is not as preferred as the original we sent
>>them. For
>>the print version, all images were greyscale, to avoid the conversion
>>issue.
>> Besides continuing to point out the inconsistencies and not
>>accepting
>>sub-standard publishing, what advice might you have to ensure proper
>>color
>>management? I do have my users proof their images by printer, not by
>>monitor (subtractive vs. additive color). Most journals do not publish
>>their ICC profiles, but should this be necessary for on-line
>>publishing?
>> Hoping to provoke an interesting discussion. Thanks in advance.
>> Best wishes for a peaceful holiday season.
>> Kathy Spencer
>>
>>
>>Kathy Spencer, Ph.D.
>>Scientific Associate
>>The Scripps Research Institute
>>10550 N. Torrey Pines Road
>>ICND 202
>>La Jolla, CA 92037
>>858-784-8437
>Glen MacDonald
>Core for Communication Research
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The Scripps Research Institute
10550 N. Torrey Pines Road
ICND 202
La Jolla, CA 92037
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