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Hello Kathy,
    I've been told by our staff specialists that getting color profiles
from publishers to calibrate images is unlikely because of the
technology used for printing color images in journals.  Apparently there
isn't much precision or accuracy in the color printing technologies
used, so the actual result from a printing run is not easily anticipated.
    As far as calibrating monitors and high-end color printers goes, we
have a technical report to help for those that might not be familiar
with the process (see
http://www.itg.uiuc.edu/publications/techreports/).  It isn't available
for download yet, but it should be available by e-mailing
[log in to unmask]  Of course even if the image is adjusted to a
well calibrated monitor, one has no control over the color calibration
of online viewer's monitors, so again there are no guarantees.
Regards,
Karl

Kathy Spencer wrote:

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> Hello!
>        I have a question regarding publishing of color pictures, both
> on-line and
> in print...what has been your experience in getting what you wanted from
> various publishers?
>        One of my users just showed me an appalling use of the
> Photoshop clone
> stamp by the publisher to erase an arrow that they wanted in a different
> format. Several parts of the cell in this image were duplicated or
> triplicated...dendrites suddenly appeared where they were not in the
> original. Again, this was the publisher, not my user doing this. The
> issue
> was corrected, but we felt like they were trying to "pull one over on
> us".
>        In addition, we submitted an RGB version of the image
> electronically for
> their web page version, and asked them NOT to convert it to CMYK, as the
> gamut was distinctly less. They did it anyway. When this was pointed out,
> they tried to correct it, I'm assuming by converting again. Obviously,
> the
> re-re-converted image is not as preferred as the original we sent
> them. For
> the print version, all images were greyscale, to avoid the conversion
> issue.
>        Besides continuing to point out the inconsistencies and not
> accepting
> sub-standard publishing, what advice might you have to ensure proper
> color
> management? I do have my users proof their images by printer, not by
> monitor (subtractive vs. additive color). Most journals do not publish
> their ICC profiles, but should this be necessary for on-line publishing?
>        Hoping to provoke an interesting discussion. Thanks in advance.
>        Best wishes for a peaceful holiday season.
>        Kathy Spencer
>
>
> Kathy Spencer, Ph.D.
> Scientific Associate
> The Scripps Research Institute
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