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Yes but the area is increased by a similar amount so the total
released does not fall with distance (assuming no inner filtering
effects etc)
Cheers
On 29/04/2011, at 7:41 AM, Craig Brideau wrote:
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> So if it is linear with intensity (1P), should it roll off to 1/4 in
> terms
> of distance from the ideal focal point? Intensity drops to 1/4 at 1
> unit
> distance from a point source, so I'm approximating the center of the
> focal
> point here. Am I right in my thinking?
>
> Craig
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Mark Cannell <[log in to unmask]
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>> At low powers the uncaging is linear in intensity so there should
>> be no
>> threshold. So, the uncaging volume at low powers is the same as
>> the PSF and
>> for 2P its the 2P PSF. If ground state depletion develops the FWHM
>> of the
>> focal uncaging spot grows (of course).
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On 28/04/2011, at 2:18 PM, Craig Brideau wrote:
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>>> How much uncaging occurs outside the focal region in single
>>> photon? If
>>> you
>>> don't have your laser turned up to much the energy density should
>>> only
>>> exceed the uncaging threshold near the focal point, yes?
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Rosemary White <[log in to unmask]
>>>> wrote:
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>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Haven't followed this discussion closely, but would one advantage
>>>> of 2P
>>>> lie
>>>> in the ability to uncage caged compounds - fluorescent tracers, for
>>>> example,
>>>> within a single cell? We've used UV uncaging and while you get
>>>> most
>>>> uncaging in the target cell, you also get cones of uncaging above
>>>> and
>>>> below
>>>> the plane of focus. Seems that 2P would overcome this problem.
>>>>
>>>> Rosemary White
>>>>
>>>> Dr Rosemary White
>>>> CSIRO Plant Industry
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>>>>
>>>> On 28/04/11 10:10 AM, "Craig Brideau" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> I second the previous lister's opinions. At the end of the day
>>>>> MP is
>>>>>
>>>> really
>>>>
>>>>> only good for thick tissue sections. If you are looking at cell
>>>>> layers
>>>>>
>>>> just
>>>>
>>>>> use a conventional 1P confocal. The key advantage of 2P is
>>>>> penetration
>>>>> depth, which is moot when you are looking at cells. That said,
>>>>> John's
>>>>> comments about shorter UV imaging are still valid; it's easier
>>>>> to get a
>>>>>
>>>> NIR
>>>>
>>>>> Ti:Saph beam through conventional optics than a very UV beam.
>>>>> This only
>>>>> applies if you are using dyes that need very UV excitation of
>>>>> course.
>>>>>
>>>>> Craig
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 6:29 AM, George McNamara
>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
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>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The tuning range of Ti:Sapphire (ex. 690-1040 nm) used to be
>>>>>> problematic
>>>>>> for exciting far red and infrared fluorophores. There were some
>>>>>>
>>>>> exceptions,
>>>>
>>>>> such as Alexa Fluor 488m 568, 594, and 633 all exciting well
>>>>> around 755
>>>>>>
>>>>> nm
>>>>
>>>>> (Fig 5D of Dickinson et al 2003 J Biomed Optics 8: 329-338), but
>>>>> since
>>>>>>
>>>>> you
>>>>
>>>>> are ok with cost and complexity, adding an OPO(s) and/or
>>>>> multiple MP
>>>>>>
>>>>> lasers,
>>>>
>>>>> gives you full range (see
>>>>>> http://www.coherent.com/products/?1570/Chameleon-OPO-Tuning-
>>>>>> Range for
>>>>>> OPO).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depending on cell type and physiological needs, you may be able
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>> suppress
>>>>
>>>>> phototoxicity by lowering O2 - cell culture at ~18% O2 is
>>>>> something of
>>>>>>
>>>>> an
>>>>
>>>>> artifact for many cell types - by using catalase/glucose oxidase/
>>>>> glucose
>>>>>>
>>>>> or
>>>>
>>>>> Oxyrase (for the latter, www.oxyrase.com, see Waterman-Storer
>>>>> 1993 and
>>>>>> Mikhailov 1995 Cell Motil Cytokseleton).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/23/2011 6:03 PM, David Knecht charter wrote:
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Is there any disadvantage to multiphoton for cultured cells
>>>>>>> (besides
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> cost
>>>>
>>>>> and complexity)? Cell viability? Phototoxicity? Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Kate Luby-Phelps wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Multiphoton has no clear advantage for cells in culture. For
>>>>>>>> cell
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> culture
>>>>
>>>>> samples,
>>>>>>>> we use two photon only to excite DAPI or other UV and near-
>>>>>>>> UV fluors
>>>>>>>> since we
>>>>>>>> had to make a choice between the Ti:S and a 405 laser on our
>>>>>>>> scope.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kate Luby-Phelps
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dr. David Knecht
>>>>>>> Department of Molecular and Cell Biology
>>>>>>> Co-head Flow Cytometry and Confocal Microscopy Facility
>>>>>>> U-3125
>>>>>>> 91 N. Eagleville Rd.
>>>>>>> University of Connecticut
>>>>>>> Storrs, CT 06269
>>>>>>> 860-486-2200
>>>>>>> 860-486-4331 (fax)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George McNamara, PhD
>>>>>> Analytical Imaging Core Facility
>>>>>> University of Miami
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
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