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Sarah,
	Fair enough. I hadn't realized that there was anything in 
nail polish that caused fading. Its a good point. I was not trying to 
advocate for using the stuff, just explaining why we do. Maybe we 
will even try w/o?? Once in a while somethingwe want to see is under 
the polish.
		Tobias

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>OK, but why not just use a straight glycerol-based mounting medium?
>Then you wouldn't have any significant evaporation and you don't have to
>add the unknown of nail polish.  If it works for you, great, but there
>have been lengthy discussions in the past about what component in nail
>polish causes fading- if you leave it out completely, it's not an issue.
>Why add a bunch of variables when you don't need to?  I should add that
>we occasionally go back to fixed samples over a year old and they look
>similar to the newly prepared ones, just dimmer.  I suggest just trying
>a few without nail polish and seeing how long they hold up (or maybe
>someone on this list has already done this and can make a comment)
>Sarah
>
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>Subject: Re: Substitute to Nail Polish
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>Sarah,
>	I'll take a stab at answering you. Note -- I have no stock in
>the nail polish companies!  We store our slides for more than a year
>and often go back. The images are not quite as crispy as original but
>are servicable. We use a water gycerol mixture so there is some
>evaporation, and oxygen may diffuse in. But in any case, we absorb
>excess mountant and the nail polish sets up in moments (although we
>always wait 30 to 60 min before going near a microscope) so I can't
>see how it could cause trouble. And the colors are so pretty (just
>kidding about the last).
>
>	Anyway, that is why we use nail polish.
>
>	Tobias
>
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>>I have yet to figure out why someone would use nail polish on their
>>slides.  We mostly use inverted scopes and only have problems if the
>>coverlips are small (15mm or less diameter) and too much mounting
>>medium is used- they tend to be dragged around by the surface
>>tension between the immersion oil and the coverslip.  It's easily
>>solved by using a Kimwipe to remove the excess mounting medium.
>>Samples are stored flat in a fridge for several months.  The vapor
>>pressure of glycerol is EXTREMELY low so evaporation is not an issue
>>at all.  The only thing you might have to worry about is fading, but
>>we rarely look at them after more than a month or two.  It seems
>>like adding nail polish with all the solvents, polymers, colors, etc
>>in it is just asking for trouble (see all the postings on this in
>>the archives).  Just because "we've always done it" doesn't make it
>>a good idea.
>>Sarah
>>
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>>Katherine S
>>Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:21 PM
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>>Subject: Re: Substitute to Nail Polish
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